SparkFun Electronics Commentsurn:uuid:214d0e4e-f1b1-d287-ce26-ac5b4c9f82492024-03-29T07:43:26-06:00SparkFun ElectronicsMikeGrusin on FaKey MaKeyMikeGrusinurn:uuid:5a6e5200-a676-bc14-88f3-9247477cbd552016-04-11T15:58:41-06:00<p><em>Paging Pete Dokter, Pete Dokter, get your AmEx out...</em></p>
l0gikG8 on FaKey MaKeyl0gikG8urn:uuid:010bd994-6ade-298c-0da5-3223245831872016-04-06T16:41:20-06:00<p>Regarding the high resistance touch technology, the early version of the Makey Makey circuit was the same as an example Application Note published by Atmel.</p>
bnewbold on FaKey MaKeybnewboldurn:uuid:5d205696-e4f7-7059-a4da-d87fd7f188f02016-04-06T15:50:29-06:00<p>Hmm, I wasn't so sure whether this would be a license violation. My informal understanding was that copyright only applies to design files (and one or two other things, like "mask works"). In this case a PCB layout isn't even being copied, only possibly part of a circuit schematic, so copyright wouldn't apply. The relevant IP legal framework would be patent protection, either on the high resistance touch technology (did Makey Makey pioneer this?) or it's application to user interaction or musical experimentation (AFAIK Makey Makey did popularize this use case, though there might have been prior art).<p>I think it's very likely that this product is <em>conceptually</em> and <em>in spirit</em> a derivative work of the Makey Makey, and for educational and all kinds of other reasons it <em>should</em> be open hardware.</p><p>I would be curious to hear from the Makey Makey folks; is it possible they were consulted or even collaborated on this product?</p><p><em>EDIT TO ADD</em>: noting that Alicia never claimed this was a license violation, just that it "should" be open hardware.</p></p>
M-Short on FaKey MaKeyM-Shorturn:uuid:1ecf9277-3cca-580b-c274-25ecfb56744e2016-04-06T15:11:43-06:00<p>JoyLabs changed to a PIC but we are still using the 32U4 on our board so we can't speak to the reasons behind their decisions.</p>
Nick Poole on FaKey MaKeyNick Pooleurn:uuid:d5eedeb6-e220-24ec-c757-5603bb9db9022016-04-06T14:39:44-06:00<p>Hey, there's an authority on the subject! Thanks for weighing in! :)</p>
alicia gibb on FaKey MaKeyalicia gibburn:uuid:542232a2-bebd-6f2c-87ad-20ff893eb1e42016-04-06T14:36:23-06:00<p>Yes, this product should absolutely be open hardware as it's an undeniable derivative of the Makey Makey and have documentation released under CC BY-SA 4.0</p>
Madbodger on FaKey MaKeyMadbodgerurn:uuid:b2cdbbaa-319d-074b-e538-1e55372e8aa22016-04-06T14:35:59-06:00<p>I doubt they want to release it with a share-alike license, as then they'd have to release circuit diagrams, source code, sound files, etc. and they may well have used some licensed content there. Some attribution would have been nice, however.</p>
Patrick3coffee on FaKey MaKeyPatrick3coffeeurn:uuid:0b3f7386-a0af-a920-2bc3-8c4bcc03255f2016-04-06T08:14:54-06:00<p>Adding lasers generally makes things better, but removing the glob top! Sweet teardown</p>
NorthStreetLabs on FaKey MaKeyNorthStreetLabsurn:uuid:eaa6ae27-6aa0-fb50-3f6a-844bc64330b42016-04-06T05:58:09-06:00<p>I'm surprised too! My work only has 10 people, we also manufacture PCBs in the USA, but we've got two stereoscopes, really makes those harder to see PCB problems stick out!</p>
JohnathanN. on FaKey MaKeyJohnathanN.urn:uuid:36b4c283-330c-268e-315b-436c9fc170812016-04-05T14:01:41-06:00<p>This tear down definitely tore down further than I expected. :D That was awesome to see.</p>
TomKeddie on FaKey MaKeyTomKeddieurn:uuid:a195d6ef-7795-0132-247f-41345af2de082016-04-05T13:42:36-06:00<p>Nice teardown. Would also be good to see an article about MakeyMakey switching from the 32u4 to the PIC?<p>I see JoyLabz has MakeyMakey in the scholastic catalog this month. I suspect they're too busy shipping to have time to consider fakes. Congrats on their high volume marketing.</p></p>
ME heat o nator on FaKey MaKeyME heat o natorurn:uuid:9f004b93-49d6-10ea-b0c6-3d82c72c42442016-04-05T11:51:06-06:00<p>Seems to me MGA has an engineer or two that thought they got away with something. I have never heard of their program, and don't think I will encourage my girls to check it out; we will hack on our own and don't expect to mimic copies. I did however enjoy the tear-down and insight into cheap toy design.</p>