SparkFun Electronics Commentsurn:uuid:214d0e4e-f1b1-d287-ce26-ac5b4c9f82492024-03-28T04:45:24-06:00SparkFun ElectronicsFunda on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30AFundaurn:uuid:8ac57f60-c433-2849-0b94-c2b20a3033702011-07-27T09:47:55-06:00<p>There are 1800 turns on the coil inside. Just FYI.</p>
Rude on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30ARudeurn:uuid:d6703e32-b8f8-a708-dcdc-11f9cf33a9272011-06-17T07:45:00-06:00<p>it looks like there are two resistors in there - one 24ohm, the other 29ohm in series.<br>
Anyone have any idea of how to estimate the number of turns on the transformer inside? :)</p>
Rude on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30ARudeurn:uuid:a68374f5-a44a-a89e-f318-6d594ec5c8fb2011-06-16T07:42:42-06:00<p>I've checked the PDF, but for the life of me I cant determine how many turns are on this CT, or what the load resistor is that is built into it.<br>
Does anyone have any specific information about this 30A CT?</p>
makeder on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30Amakederurn:uuid:630b7741-a3f2-e5db-d389-6d6b9d7786f52011-06-01T11:04:17-06:00<p>hi, i was looking at the example project and it seems they use a different sensor and use a dc jack to connect the current sensor to the board, is there a jack that works with this one? or can you just connect the output to positive?</p>
irab88 on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30Airab88urn:uuid:1c823cc1-a22d-72a1-6071-1a326157cb6a2011-06-01T10:42:10-06:00<p>Probably not, as spark plugs pulse extremely fast with micro-amperes of current. You would need to have a very sensitive and accurate piece of equipment for that.</p>
Customer #92825 on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30ACustomer #92825urn:uuid:dbcb795d-c2dd-044f-eaa4-8da224437d352011-04-21T11:26:06-06:00<p>been over a month and a half since I order this...........</p>
superbrudd on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30Asuperbruddurn:uuid:a228c85e-3ba9-f689-2a76-e5d681292bf62011-04-03T01:04:12-06:00<p>Lower your home power use! :-)</p>
adrianTNT on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30AadrianTNTurn:uuid:aefad2d3-8b9d-9a01-f71e-a8b21dd7d9562011-03-25T11:47:18-06:00<p>Anyone knows if these can be used to monitor current going through car spark plugs?</p>
JayK on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30AJayKurn:uuid:fcf4b84a-14b1-795d-3782-a795b3b63c512011-03-24T15:14:42-06:00<p>For an idea of what you can do with a current transformer, check out http://code.google.com/p/open-energy-meter/. It's an open-source energy meter my buddy and I made.</p>
Customer #30843 on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30ACustomer #30843urn:uuid:e9a08d4c-8636-9dd7-e338-978d74f0931f2011-03-14T21:40:32-06:00<p>I have an in-progress project using this sensor with a LTC1966 true RMS chip. It should be a lot easier to build a multichannel current monitor if you can sample DC out the the true RMS chip rather than an AC waveform.<br>
I too would like lower current versions of the sensors.<br>
JonM</p>
trl on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30Atrlurn:uuid:37ead676-a245-1b3d-a63e-edb01b4e64e82011-03-14T12:23:18-06:00<p>Yeah, i questioned that too. Now i understand that Voltage/1V means that it is a voltage mode unit (has built-in current sense resistor to convert current into voltage) and 1V means that the full scale current of 30A would read 1V (apparently the burden resistor is 1v/30a = 33.33333333 milli-ohms). Could measure quite accurately using Vref = 1v with 10-bit ADC in the Arduino.</p>
RVaughan2 on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30ARVaughan2urn:uuid:605a84b1-739e-0ca2-9d9c-af5de0bda1c92011-03-11T19:47:36-07:00<p>I would grab 2 right off the bat if you stocked the 100Amp sensors. Seeeduino has the 100Amps for a good price, I would just rather purchase from someone a little more 'local' and not have to worry about long shipping delays, lost orders or what have you.<br>
I have a feeling you'd run out of stock real quick. How about a pre-order/request submission for them to let us show you just how much we'd like to see you stock them :)</p>
pubdc on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30Apubdcurn:uuid:2f5c25dc-ea7b-4faa-ee8f-b2efc4e56ad02011-03-11T07:48:38-07:00<p>Great product, against all those asking for a higher rated version, can I ask for a smaller one : I would like to measure individual circuits (areas, appliances, lights) in the house. something like 2 amp, 5 amp, and 10 amp would be cool. Sign me up for 30pcs in total in that case.</p>
PresidentOfAwesomeness on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30APresidentOfAwesomenessurn:uuid:407da47e-0799-e054-75f6-9162ff3ed43b2011-03-10T20:39:48-07:00<p>Yeah, but these should work with pulsed DC, too.<br>
It looks pretty interesting... I might want to get one of these myself.</p>
Rawdust on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30ARawdusturn:uuid:3a67d829-2ed3-d836-0369-cda157d6658a2011-03-10T19:13:25-07:00<p>That is correct. The first post points out an error in the photo. n1ist says you can use it on the whole cord for GFCI. I would not trust that set up for GFCI.</p>
Ted M on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30ATed Murn:uuid:69e4e1ee-acfd-f949-dec1-37cff56b41ba2011-03-10T18:49:48-07:00<p>Regrettably, from past experience, this type of device isn't as simple as clamping it around your extension cord and reading the current. I believe you still have to remove one of the two wires in the extension cord. Oh, and it only works for AC.</p>
WetDogNose on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30AWetDogNoseurn:uuid:40a45a58-2f72-f080-b108-2d563e5a3d2a2011-03-10T18:19:48-07:00<p>When I saw this I thought "Ace I have been waiting for ages to replace the hacked whole house monitor I currently have" then I saw it is only for up to 30 amps! Any chance you can source a higher rated sensor with a similar setup to cover a whole house?</p>
Rawdust on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30ARawdusturn:uuid:5529ae89-5575-f08d-bbb8-2e8b2df59c8e2011-03-10T15:29:02-07:00<p>The data sheet says the output is Voltage/1V. I believe something got lost in translation. The CT clamps I've seen usually have the output be something like 1mv/A or 10mv/A.<br>
Also the example uses a burden resistor to get a voltage. The resistor is built into this sensor.</p>
RobertC. on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30ARobertC.urn:uuid:f133bd1e-aeba-3e70-b9ea-2fc2b300c6822011-03-10T14:04:30-07:00<p>We can check into it. We'll have to see how popular this one is.</p>
doobie on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30Adoobieurn:uuid:bae21ca2-5a89-88aa-239e-400b6deadb462011-03-10T13:17:41-07:00<p>Any chances that the 100amp one will be available?</p>
noworries on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30Anoworriesurn:uuid:97da2447-0bb2-b660-80ee-ad0782a20e082011-03-10T13:06:44-07:00<p>Two things may happen. The most likely is that the inductor will saturate and the output would indicate slightly higher than 30A, even with significant increases in the actual current flowing through the device.<br>
The second thing that could happen is that the shunt resistor inside the sensor could fail since it could be operated outside of its design parameters. If it should fail open, depending on the impedance of the circuit it is connected to a dangerous voltage potential may exist across the coil output.<br>
It is a very good idea to use these devices with this potential failure mode in mind, and to not exceed their current sensing limits.</p>
khearn on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30Akhearnurn:uuid:d51850fc-245e-8ce0-6d57-8d19d3c5a0ca2011-03-10T11:26:34-07:00<p>You might want to mention that this will only work for AC current.</p>
doobie on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30Adoobieurn:uuid:9547b932-f488-a192-ebf5-31641af8c3c42011-03-10T11:01:25-07:00<p>Any idea what happens if I run this on a wire with > 30a? Will it burn out or just return 30a?</p>
77521 on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30A77521urn:uuid:4c0d9931-8c09-1d08-017d-aa4d1b66e6532011-03-09T20:35:27-07:00<p>Greetings,<br>
Nice product and reference to impressive project based on Atmel 465 code.<br>
How would a breakout board with an Atmel 465 (or a more recent verson of it) compare cost-wise to using an Arduino?<br>
How about a breakout board with a true RMS chip on it, such as an AD636, AD736 or BB4341?<br>
Thanks,<br>
John</p>
rsp on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30Arspurn:uuid:2713b3e5-c478-3694-3786-769038cd89af2011-03-09T15:28:30-07:00<p>You'd have worse problems than that if you try to pass 30A through those little bitty wires. Normally you'd clamp this puppy around a rather large conductor to measure the current going through it (that's why the hole is so big). If you want to measure the current going into your house, you could use a couple of CR3110's (75A) or CR3111's (100A) that are available from crmagnetics.com.</p>
RobertC. on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30ARobertC.urn:uuid:bb2c3871-b166-fa08-2a5c-36df5ee6c2be2011-03-09T14:59:10-07:00<p>Yep. There are a few different ways to use this load sensor.</p>
n1ist on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30An1isturn:uuid:ec04800b-3cd3-072b-db81-82b838e5730d2011-03-09T14:24:05-07:00<p>The last picture shows how a gfci works. It will measure the imbalance between hot and neutral (which is assumed to be leaking somewhere due to a fault)</p>
Customer #1340 on SEN-10341 - Non-Invasive Current Sensor - 30ACustomer #1340urn:uuid:99a8d81b-4a04-5abc-8b1d-aeb56735ba082011-03-09T13:51:53-07:00<p>Nit pick warning!<br>
The last picture shows the hot and neutral lines passing through the hole in the sensor. The sensor will not be able to read the load current if both sides of the load are passed through the hole. Only the hot or the neutral should be passed through the hole to read the load current. In this configuration you would only see the ground current, hopefully there would be none to see.<br>
Nit pick off, thanks</p>