SparkFun Electronics Commentsurn:uuid:214d0e4e-f1b1-d287-ce26-ac5b4c9f82492024-03-18T20:47:41-06:00SparkFun Electronicsbboyho on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402bboyhourn:uuid:9d18aff9-b154-c179-0f55-a42704033f8a2016-07-15T11:55:10-06:00<p><strong>-------------------- Tech Support Tips/Troubleshooting/Common Issues --------------------</strong><p><strong>Coin Cell?</strong></p><p>I tested the step up converter – NCP1402 [ <a href="https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10968" rel="nofollow">https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10968</a> ] with a coin cell battery. The coin cell was not able to power a 5V Arduino. This would probably be the same for other boost converters. The output power of the coin cell is probably be too low to be boosted for the boost converters. You would need a battery that is able to output more power. It would be better with a LiPo battery with nominal 3.7V.</p></p>
NightEule5 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402NightEule5urn:uuid:b2414391-f5c0-668e-dbf7-66d6a6d9d1b72015-08-16T18:21:23-06:00<p>I have a question. Can this safely be connected to the load pins on a sunny buddy without destroying the sunny buddy board or the battery if the battery is 3.7v?</p>
Customer #638591 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #638591urn:uuid:3c11a7b5-f0e5-1914-4b23-c59a38a983562015-02-08T22:58:14-07:00<p>will this work with the electric imp! the other 5v dc-dc step up would not</p>
kobachi on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402kobachiurn:uuid:8987b381-a1c2-eaae-1dec-45771ef553562015-01-03T01:13:04-07:00<p>Also it would sure be nice if the Vin and GND pins were next to each other so a JST connector could be mounted to receive a LiPo battery.</p>
kobachi on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402kobachiurn:uuid:12c7bf30-fa2d-67a8-0aa0-3cd0f6829fd32015-01-02T23:46:07-07:00<p>What exactly is the point of a "breakout board" if only the bare-minimum pins are broken out? Would really love to be able to enable/disable this using the Chip Enable pin...</p>
Customer #163943 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #163943urn:uuid:7dd56ea3-55bc-e538-4d8b-846f9697e7212014-11-17T11:06:49-07:00<p>On the subject of the shut down CE pin of the NCP 1402. I cut the trace to the pin and attached a jumper wire. When I connect the jumper to ground, the output drops from 5v to around 3.7v with a load, it won't go to 0v. This happens with both breakout board I have. Does anybody else have this problem or a solution?</p>
Customer #593629 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #593629urn:uuid:1127d3ff-d60c-5a9f-3a3b-5dfa2d75c5ed2014-09-09T13:28:10-06:00<p>Do the LEDs have to run off the wind turbine? If you are only trying to see when the wind is blowing you, could use the power coming off the turbine to flip a relay or even set it up to light up more LEDs according to how much voltage (speed) is coming from it. This would allow you to power the LEDs from another source, such as a battery.</p>
TheSpaceCadet on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402TheSpaceCadeturn:uuid:c0177cc1-8487-c028-e96c-da5cdb0ffa972014-09-01T19:30:08-06:00<p>I think aeroguy was mistaken. I'm pretty sure this chip acts as a power source. Putting them in parallel wont do anything to the voltage, but it should give you double the power. If each could output 150mA at 5V if Vin is 3V (let's pretend), then two of them in parallel could provide 300mA total. If current doubles, power doubles (assuming constant voltage).</p>
Customer #576371 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #576371urn:uuid:27b056c4-08bb-d7f2-6337-1d0b32c35b962014-07-20T17:52:44-06:00<p>Ok, I have limited electronic skills, but have a project I'm trying to get dialed in:
I have a wind-powered generator that I want to power some LEDs.
The issue is that my RPM has to be so high to get the lights to work. I have rewound the generator until I am out of room for wire, and my propeller design limits the available RPM. With a strong wind it works, but I'd like the lights to come on with a more subtle wind. (I have an adjustable voltage regulator to prevent over powering the LEDs in a gale-force wind). The light system wants 4-6 volts, and 30mA.
My question is whether this unit or your "Li-power boost converter" would be good solutions to get my lights to come on at lower generator RPMs.</p>
fle33.com on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402fle33.comurn:uuid:a81ca1c8-956f-3fb2-282f-93b0d38720e22014-07-16T21:16:06-06:00<p>I see that there has been provision for a 0.1" header, but there is only one GND pin.
So If I want to add a jst connector for my 3.3v lipo input, there is no GND pin for my 5v output connector.
Perhaps add another gnd pin?
1-4Vin
GND
GND
5V</p>
Customer #571268 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #571268urn:uuid:8dd44af8-71c9-803a-af63-2f9f7f6017ba2014-07-10T16:27:36-06:00<p>can i use two of this module to get a dual supply? i.e. -5v, gnd, 5v with a single 3.7v li-ion battery? Please it is urgent</p>
Customer #386958 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #386958urn:uuid:ee65cc50-c4e7-7fb1-d688-5fd0b3757d252014-07-02T08:17:06-06:00<p>Hi, I am using this module with 3.7V Li-ion single Cell, My doubt is that does it have undervoltage protection or something so when my battery runs below 2.5V the NCP will shut it down. Is it possible ?
Is there any other way possible to achieve this ?</p>
JordanDee on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402JordanDeeurn:uuid:a9683e90-c486-8566-e30c-55cd8e8f3ad92014-06-30T11:00:10-06:00<p>I imagine it's due to the way you set up your circuit, do you have a schematic we could look at?</p>
Customer #551199 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #551199urn:uuid:9993395b-77c3-22d3-9b13-8136cc67d3342014-06-29T14:25:29-06:00<p>Hi, I'm trying to connect a 3.7 input provided by a Lipo-Battery that passes through a P Mosfet. However, when the stepup is connected this input voltage falls to 0.7, what can I do to fix this issue??</p>
JordanDee on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402JordanDeeurn:uuid:73fcb50e-f024-6b09-862a-de43a841af112014-06-16T14:52:59-06:00<p>Yes, as long as it's single cell so the voltage output is ~3.7V. <a href="https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8483" rel="nofollow">PRT-08483</a> will work with this.</p>
mattyd24 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402mattyd24urn:uuid:7666896a-fed6-5288-3b13-b06896f01b212014-06-16T14:44:38-06:00<p>Does the 2000 mah li-po work with this?</p>
Customer #394180 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #394180urn:uuid:e349c686-6120-a8c6-894f-4f9c82e02e902014-04-18T06:48:46-06:00<p>MORE CURRENT!!<p>Come on SF, throw us a bone. Give us something we can put between a 3.7v 2Ah LiPo cell and our Raspberry PIs, beaglebones, etc. I'm willing to pay for it, it just doesn't exist.</p></p>
AeroGuy_123 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402AeroGuy_123urn:uuid:07431b00-a153-98ec-6820-94d50da025b22014-01-02T11:31:55-07:00<p>Not with this board. Infact, you might get 200mA only if Vin=2V and Vout=3V.
I recommend planning for lower current (~150mA).</p>
AeroGuy_123 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402AeroGuy_123urn:uuid:4d4558a1-6a8b-2835-e934-de587f6a3f282014-01-02T11:28:40-07:00<p>No, it's not a battery.</p>
MikeGrusin on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402MikeGrusinurn:uuid:87294ead-2bd9-cd9b-ae72-257daa6e2bd42013-10-21T16:36:55-06:00<p>That's a fair complaint, sorry about that! We do try to design our products to walk the line between requiring minimum effort to just work out of the (red) box, and being completely spread out and hackable. We don't always get the line right. I have personally have run into identical situations to yours, so I feel your pain! We are trying to be better about breaking out every useful pin while also providing e.g. pullup resistors so that you don't necessarily have to drive that pin to get the circuit to work. We'll see if we can get that pin broken out on a future revision. Thanks for your feedback!</p>
Customer #360117 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #360117urn:uuid:9b9e8bb7-c840-4788-3e6a-27b046b92a8c2013-10-19T13:18:35-06:00<p>I fail to understand why Sparkfun never seems to breakout the shutdown pin on any of their breakout boards! Why do I have to cut a trace and solder a jumper wire on and SMD part to get it?</p>
bearclaw on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402bearclawurn:uuid:97ff25b0-57af-73db-207c-40b69a0aca5f2013-09-07T11:51:45-06:00<p>Is it possible to use two of this board in parallel to get twice the max output power?</p>
Customer #453486 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #453486urn:uuid:b210fa16-394a-c939-e727-270ccded41bc2013-07-17T11:18:04-06:00<p>I'm just wondering if there is way to increase the mA beyond 200 to say 500 mA?</p>
Kamiquasi on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Kamiquasiurn:uuid:0668c2e2-5ab5-bede-fb37-9fe192a4bfcc2013-07-05T13:20:14-06:00<p>Unfortunately, you would have to replace the NCP1402 itself. It's not a configurable device - ONSemi produces them in fixed output voltages; <a href="http://www.onsemi.com/PowerSolutions/product.do?id=NCP1402" rel="nofollow">NCP1402: 200 mA PFM Micropower Boost Converter</a><p>If you wanted something more configurable, check out the <a href="https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10255" rel="nofollow">LiPower - Boost Converter</a></p></p>
automaton on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402automatonurn:uuid:0f97dfc8-20f5-cf7f-c4d9-67e7f103047d2013-07-05T13:05:46-06:00<p>The schematic for this and the 3.3V version are identical. What actually differentiates the output voltage? I have the 5V version and was wondering what I'd have to change on it to get it to output 3.3V?</p>
SlyVixsky on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402SlyVixskyurn:uuid:f136e3c2-7ec0-a71f-9406-84fd690fb6742013-06-13T16:59:55-06:00<p>Since i have mine sitting here, its just shy of the 4mm mark :)</p>
SlyVixsky on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402SlyVixskyurn:uuid:adfd9c94-dcf2-fc61-e816-fc2d4218f6062013-06-13T16:58:26-06:00<p>I did this recently, to test the voltage drain rates of AA cells vs lipo cells with my teensy, and used a software fix. just connect the battery positive to your adc line, and in software multiply the reading by ADC-resolution/5V, in my case a 12 bit ADC i use 1024/5V. reading is typically within 0.05V of my DMM.</p>
SlyVixsky on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402SlyVixskyurn:uuid:37590f3a-ab7d-cd4c-7cfc-a77561f613702013-06-13T16:54:58-06:00<p>noise levels? 10 microfarad capacitor :)</p>
Kamiquasi on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Kamiquasiurn:uuid:0157527c-89c4-2099-7f23-0dc7a02a63fc2013-04-09T17:58:09-06:00<p>It is 12.7mm (0.5") by 16.51mm (0.65").<br>
The height is a bit more difficult - the tallest component is the inductor, but I don't know which one that is to check a datasheet on, but since the package outline on the board is about 6mm on the long side and the photo is fairly orthographic, after some pixel measuring I'd say it's under 2.5mm tall. Add to that the PCB's thickness itself, do some arbitrary upward rounding, and assume that's 4mm maximum.</p>
Thetinkerer on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Thetinkererurn:uuid:437b1b80-36ad-d443-3060-2d2d4501ddde2013-04-09T16:39:39-06:00<p>What size is it? (mm)</p>
Customer #374689 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #374689urn:uuid:8a418e8e-1cba-757c-249e-697ca7eddabd2012-12-06T03:24:27-07:00<p>Can any one please tell me whether i can connect two of these boards in series to get a 10V output from 2 3.7V batteries?
Actually my work is to measure the individual voltage difference of each Li-Po cell with a ADC. I am using a microchip adc which uses the VDD as Vref. So i need a voltage higher than the cell to convert it. Therefore i use this converter to step up the voltage to 5V.
It works completely fine when i connect two cells seperately. But when i connect it in series and connect the ADC to output the lower boost converter produces an output of 8V instead of 5V.
Guys pls help me.</p>
dv on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402dvurn:uuid:0313ab51-d82b-ff10-72b3-f76b19d257bb2012-09-20T21:38:40-06:00<p>You obviously did not read the other posts. You can not run this at 4.5 volts.
It will not regulate and will draw more current.</p>
Customer #345349 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #345349urn:uuid:b6a32cf9-a6a9-9c13-cf86-4cedb1fd35612012-08-12T13:14:09-06:00<p>Would this arrangement (Lipo/ion straight to boost converter) endanger the cell? Or is the under voltage protection on the cell sufficient to prevent dangerous discharge? Apologies for going slightly off topic.<p>Thanks,
Andrew</p></p>
Customer #105397 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #105397urn:uuid:acb805fe-cc08-068c-4c52-0a31c0a64b492012-06-27T18:11:49-06:00<p>The efficiency of this thing is no where near the datasheet efficiency.<p>Running it on 3 AA batteries putting out around 4.5 volts, this thing increased the current used by my teensy from 10ma to 70ma (vs running the teensy directly on the 4.5v).</p><p>I wanted to use this thing in order to get more life out of my batteries, but drawing an extra 60ma completely negates any possible benefit.</p></p>
Kevin Vermeer on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Kevin Vermeerurn:uuid:5f8cdf57-fe7f-c907-9707-e367496bbf4c2012-04-30T07:11:25-06:00<p>The previous posts are incorrect. They are correct in that the I/O pins are rated for 5.5V (or 6V, in the "Absolute Maximum" section, but it's generally best to limit it to normal operating values; ignore the 'absolute maximum' section on most datasheets if you want to play it safe). However, it will not function properly when the input voltage is higher than 4 Volts.<p>Check out the schematic: The output is connected to the input through an inductor and a diode. There is no way for the device to regulate the output voltage down; it's only passed through the forward-biased diode. That would allow you to use about 5.5V as an input to get out 5.0V, but the part will not be actively "regulating"; sufficiently low output current would cause this to rise depending on the diode's behavior.</p><p>Over 4V, you're not using the regulator as intended. You won't damage this device, but your noise levels and load regulation won't be as good. That's probably OK; Lithium batteries only have a brief period at their fully charged state during which they're over 4V.</p></p>
Customer #15620 on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402Customer #15620urn:uuid:4d494f65-6e4d-7b80-78e3-b4ceea738d752012-04-28T15:12:14-06:00<p>Just have a look at the datasheet, up to 6V is allowed. I do not find any information what will happen if the input voltage is higher than the output voltage but 4.2V should be no problem.</p>
SlyVixsky on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402SlyVixskyurn:uuid:5506db0d-54b3-ff1e-d3ec-9223db7e560a2012-04-28T15:11:30-06:00<p>According to the posts on the Sparkfun NCP1400 step up board, AND the datasheet, the IC has a max input voltage of 5.5V, so it will work just fine with a fully charged 4.2V lipo or li-ion cell.</p>
ddegn on PRT-10968 - SparkFun 5V Step-Up Breakout - NCP1402ddegnurn:uuid:28615d07-494a-eedd-bd1d-d052048fd61d2012-04-28T01:41:45-06:00<p>What happens if the input voltage is higher than 4 Volts? It would be really nice to use this with a single cell LiPo or Li Ion battery. But both these battery types have a voltage higher than 4 Volts when fully charged.<p>It would be nice to know if a 4.2V Lithium rechargable would work with this.</p><p>I see a single cell LiPo listed in the "Related Products". I think listing a LiPo implies it would work with this regulator.</p></p>