SparkFun Electronics Commentsurn:uuid:214d0e4e-f1b1-d287-ce26-ac5b4c9f82492024-03-28T12:46:29-06:00SparkFun ElectronicsByron J. on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1Byron J.urn:uuid:8806de8d-1d96-6197-eefb-7a3c7bbc01c62014-11-26T13:05:21-07:00<p>There are a couple of ground pads available, though I agree they could be more visible & obvious, perhaps even adjacent to the little perf-board area.<p>Look on the very left edge of the PCB, about 1.5" down from the top corner. There are testpoints TP11 and TP13, tied to ground. You can also tie to ground at any of the mounting screws, or the sleeve of the output jack.</p></p>
Larsi on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1Larsiurn:uuid:8d64389b-3c34-d22d-aec9-488121c880e42014-11-25T09:26:10-07:00<p>Looks like "ground" is not broken out. Wouldn't any real hacking (like adding a filter or such) require ground? I know I can add a cable, but if I want to keep it in the enclosure a broken out ground pin would have been really useful...</p>
TessN on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1TessNurn:uuid:9c530773-4d6a-7458-f707-5923f8bd79c52014-10-28T12:01:08-06:00<p>The next cheapest Moog is the Minitaur, at $600, so in that sense, you might think of it as a plausible value. On the other hand, it apparently doesn't have the classic Moog sound that make those synths so expensive and desirable, so I'm not sure that it's that great a deal.<p>Honestly, if you want a synth you can experiment with, opening up a Monotron or a Monotribe might be a better choice, and both are considerably cheaper. The modular patching is really the only thing that gives this an advantage over those, but if you're on SparkFun, there's a pretty good chance you're not afraid of soldering.</p></p>
Madbodger on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1Madbodgerurn:uuid:d24e6392-e615-5001-4d19-75055fb263dc2014-10-13T08:44:41-06:00<p>"Ampage"?</p>
GeoffreyF on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1GeoffreyFurn:uuid:4209963e-c945-a3ae-0fff-6a97ec2ad3b52014-10-12T21:27:12-06:00<p>Check the price for an analog synthesizer with the distinctive sound which comes from their patented "ladder filter circuit". If you don't want that, fine but if you do this is an epic bargain. The same capability in the "mini-moog" was about 1500.00 back in the 1970's. If you just want to play with generic analog synth, fine. there are cheaper ones, but not much cheaper if you total up all the features here. I can tell you, having worked in this industry, circuits that are stable in different conditions that performers work in are not easy. Even a shift of a hertz or two will irritate a professional musician.</p>
Calif on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1Califurn:uuid:5bc384ce-5d01-eafb-a692-ff3fba2df0992014-10-10T22:37:46-06:00<p>It's for audiophiles who think sound made from purely analog circuits & JFETs with pilot lights is better than sound made from a DAC. Maybe Sparkfun is going to start selling JFETs with pilot lights.</p>
laserhawk64 on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1laserhawk64urn:uuid:fb2aa9a4-8dce-3b3e-a337-a52d63a399ff2014-10-10T20:04:43-06:00<p>Agreed, on both points, even knowing the prestige of the brand.<p>Take off the leading 3 and we'll talk.</p></p>
Customer #124781 on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1Customer #124781urn:uuid:9f064a2a-82bd-df5e-5946-9d18d00c509a2014-10-10T20:02:24-06:00<p>I understand your point. If I had to make a guess, it may, in part, be due to the brand name : "Moog" A very well known / prestigious name in the music world.</p>
Customer #236122 on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1Customer #236122urn:uuid:883d0223-1f6f-126f-b041-8b96ee4af8f92014-10-10T18:28:43-06:00<p>Wow! That is just prodigiously expensive. I'm struggling to understand where the value is in this.</p>
Byron J. on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1Byron J.urn:uuid:54aa51e2-8bf5-e5e7-5cc2-51beffb5141e2014-10-09T16:54:45-06:00<p>...and the "or don't" is there because it's much easier to poke and prod at the PCB if you leave the top cover off.<p>The first page of the <a href="https://cdn.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Kits/Werkstatt_01_Final_QS.pdf" rel="nofollow">quickstart guide</a> has a pretty clear synopsis of the parts on the kit, and how they fit together.</p></p>
M-Short on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1M-Shorturn:uuid:05fb4167-fad4-7984-66c1-57fe5a325ee92014-10-09T16:48:35-06:00<p>Its a few pieces (I think the top piece is separate) so you have to construct the enclosure, just not from scratch.</p>
RJR on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1RJRurn:uuid:be483617-a7ed-a242-c0da-24c64950e6922014-10-09T16:39:56-06:00<p>Ah, ok. Why then "All you need to do is construct the enclosure around the synthesizer PCB (or don’t)" ??</p>
Byron J. on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1Byron J.urn:uuid:6ca95a12-3757-8ed1-5adb-ad3f1656266e2014-10-08T23:18:30-06:00<p>No, what you see is what you get.<p>The heavy, silkscreened steel enclosure is part of the package.</p></p>
RJR on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1RJRurn:uuid:cf81eb57-4bf6-68c4-a1a3-f01e13c2f12a2014-10-08T20:41:10-06:00<p>So, there's no enclosure around the PCB, right? I guess that makes the product photo a bit misleading...</p>
M-Short on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1M-Shorturn:uuid:b4c08ce2-10f3-b252-cffd-e984b13d98d62014-10-07T12:56:49-06:00<p>Fixed, thanks</p>
jweather on KIT-13146 - Moog Werkstatt-Ø1jweatherurn:uuid:0711b6bf-311a-9007-864d-8c9b8eb99b852014-10-07T12:39:52-06:00<p>Schematic and manual are 404.</p>